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	<title>Comments on: Essay. The Fossils Don&#8217;t Speak</title>
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	<description>How can you have the last word if you haven't heard the first?</description>
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		<title>By: Mitch Cervinka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Cervinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Dr. Jason Lisle&#039;s new book &quot;The Ultimate Proof of Creation&quot;, published by Master Books (available from Answers in Genesis).  Dr. Lisle gives a very lucid presentation of the presuppositional method.  His &quot;Ultimate Proof&quot; is a transcendental argument for the Bible, and he explains the proper use of evidence in presuppositionalism.  He also gives some basic instruction in logic and logical fallacies, and provides practical examples from email correspondence he has had with atheists and others.  It&#039;s one of the most accessible presentations of presuppositionalism I have seen.

P.S. - I really appreciated your article on TAG.  I felt that you really did a thorough job of examining and answering the various objections to the transcendental argument.  Thank you for this valuable resource!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Dr. Jason Lisle&#8217;s new book &#8220;The Ultimate Proof of Creation&#8221;, published by Master Books (available from Answers in Genesis).  Dr. Lisle gives a very lucid presentation of the presuppositional method.  His &#8220;Ultimate Proof&#8221; is a transcendental argument for the Bible, and he explains the proper use of evidence in presuppositionalism.  He also gives some basic instruction in logic and logical fallacies, and provides practical examples from email correspondence he has had with atheists and others.  It&#8217;s one of the most accessible presentations of presuppositionalism I have seen.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; I really appreciated your article on TAG.  I felt that you really did a thorough job of examining and answering the various objections to the transcendental argument.  Thank you for this valuable resource!!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is plenty of evidence to indicate that the fossil record does not support evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of evidence to indicate that the fossil record does not support evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith - Also, I am not a &quot;Dr.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith &#8211; Also, I am not a &#8220;Dr.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 03:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your welcome Dr. Butler. I&#039;ll take your word that Gish was an evidentialist.

Actually, you will be pleased to note that AiG is going to greater lengths to emphasize methodology. I went to a large conference of theirs this summer and they spent a good deal of time explaining that the authority of God&#039;s word is the ultimate resting place in our case for creationism. They also had &quot;Always Ready&quot; available for purchase. It sold out that night after one of the speaker&#039;s personally recommended it.

As for ICR, I know that Henry Morris was very close to John Whitcomb (co-author of The Genesis Flood), who is about as staunch a presupper as they come. Still, ICR is more of a research program so they&#039;ll bring in scientists who know their science really well but not so much their epistemology.

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your welcome Dr. Butler. I&#8217;ll take your word that Gish was an evidentialist.</p>
<p>Actually, you will be pleased to note that AiG is going to greater lengths to emphasize methodology. I went to a large conference of theirs this summer and they spent a good deal of time explaining that the authority of God&#8217;s word is the ultimate resting place in our case for creationism. They also had &#8220;Always Ready&#8221; available for purchase. It sold out that night after one of the speaker&#8217;s personally recommended it.</p>
<p>As for ICR, I know that Henry Morris was very close to John Whitcomb (co-author of The Genesis Flood), who is about as staunch a presupper as they come. Still, ICR is more of a research program so they&#8217;ll bring in scientists who know their science really well but not so much their epistemology.</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith - Thanks for the information.  I know that Ken Ham is a presup., but I was unaware of ICR.  I am fairly confident, though, that Dr. Gish was not presup., at least in the late 90&#039;s when we spoke at the same conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith &#8211; Thanks for the information.  I know that Ken Ham is a presup., but I was unaware of ICR.  I am fairly confident, though, that Dr. Gish was not presup., at least in the late 90&#8242;s when we spoke at the same conference.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, ICR (the organization that Gish worked for) is wholly presuppositional. Most creationist groups are staunchly presuppositional, actually. (Answers in Genesis comes to mind.) They recognize that the evidences must be interpreted according to God&#039;s word. When interpreted through the biblical framework, the fossils do speak. They speak especially strongly concerning the judgment of man via the Flood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, ICR (the organization that Gish worked for) is wholly presuppositional. Most creationist groups are staunchly presuppositional, actually. (Answers in Genesis comes to mind.) They recognize that the evidences must be interpreted according to God&#8217;s word. When interpreted through the biblical framework, the fossils do speak. They speak especially strongly concerning the judgment of man via the Flood.</p>
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