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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that struck me when I read the link to Davy&#039;s article was that he refers to himself as a &quot;principled pragmatist.&quot;  I will  have  to add this to my list of &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://butler-harris.org/archives/202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;oxymora&lt;/a&gt;.

There are also many quotable lines.  This is my favorite:

&quot;I am writing because we stand in an apex of cultural and political history, and I am convinced that a group of influential though unsophisticated people do not understand what is at stake.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that struck me when I read the link to Davy&#8217;s article was that he refers to himself as a &#8220;principled pragmatist.&#8221;  I will  have  to add this to my list of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://butler-harris.org/archives/202" rel="nofollow">oxymora</a>.</p>
<p>There are also many quotable lines.  This is my favorite:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am writing because we stand in an apex of cultural and political history, and I am convinced that a group of influential though unsophisticated people do not understand what is at stake.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1030</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Davy B, it seems he is so blinded by hatred for Hillary, he can&#039;t even spell her name right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Davy B, it seems he is so blinded by hatred for Hillary, he can&#8217;t even spell her name right.</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but as a prominent thinker showed &lt;a href=&quot;http://butler-harris.org/archives/278#comment-14831&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, my horse is either being primped and pampered equally well, or he is counter-attacking (or should I say, counter-sucking-up) in a way that could be very effective. Podhoretz, after all, is a bona fide cryptocrat if there ever was one. I still think Hillary may be just the circus show set up to whip the Christian Right and other &quot;red staters&quot; into line to shout &quot;heil&quot; at a rudy candidacy, which otherwise they would reject. The tin rabbit, as I pointed out. (And they&#039;re falling into line too! Just look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dlbthoughts.com/Articles.aspx?IDCol=193&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;frantic yelping&lt;/a&gt; of little Davy B, the scion of my mentor Greg Bahnsen.)

On my theory, what would the purpose be of the public posturing about &quot;continuity of foreign policy,&quot; blah, blah? Simply this: to take the Israel question off the table in the election. If there&#039;s one thing we all agree about, even both parties, it&#039;s that the purpose of America is to spend money and spill blood for Israel. So children, none of you are to raise that question now.

Conversely, this is why both sides hate Ron Paul so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but as a prominent thinker showed <a href="http://butler-harris.org/archives/278#comment-14831" rel="nofollow">here</a>, my horse is either being primped and pampered equally well, or he is counter-attacking (or should I say, counter-sucking-up) in a way that could be very effective. Podhoretz, after all, is a bona fide cryptocrat if there ever was one. I still think Hillary may be just the circus show set up to whip the Christian Right and other &#8220;red staters&#8221; into line to shout &#8220;heil&#8221; at a rudy candidacy, which otherwise they would reject. The tin rabbit, as I pointed out. (And they&#8217;re falling into line too! Just look at the <a href="http://www.dlbthoughts.com/Articles.aspx?IDCol=193" rel="nofollow">frantic yelping</a> of little Davy B, the scion of my mentor Greg Bahnsen.)</p>
<p>On my theory, what would the purpose be of the public posturing about &#8220;continuity of foreign policy,&#8221; blah, blah? Simply this: to take the Israel question off the table in the election. If there&#8217;s one thing we all agree about, even both parties, it&#8217;s that the purpose of America is to spend money and spill blood for Israel. So children, none of you are to raise that question now.</p>
<p>Conversely, this is why both sides hate Ron Paul so much.</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;George Bush smooths path for Hillary&lt;/strong&gt;

This was the recent headline from the &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article2604138.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunday Times&lt;/a&gt;.

Looks like the fix is in.  I propose that my colleague buy me that steak now.  Given the run-away price of food (and it is going to get worse over the next year), he may have to plink down several hundred shekels if he insists on waiting for the rigged 2008 election results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>George Bush smooths path for Hillary</strong></p>
<p>This was the recent headline from the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article2604138.ece" rel="nofollow">Sunday Times</a>.</p>
<p>Looks like the fix is in.  I propose that my colleague buy me that steak now.  Given the run-away price of food (and it is going to get worse over the next year), he may have to plink down several hundred shekels if he insists on waiting for the rigged 2008 election results.</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro Ed -- yes, what happened in PA was shameful. But I would diagnose it slightly differently. It&#039;s not so much that Christians are divided, as that they are largely united around the wrong team, that has gotten us in this fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro Ed &#8212; yes, what happened in PA was shameful. But I would diagnose it slightly differently. It&#8217;s not so much that Christians are divided, as that they are largely united around the wrong team, that has gotten us in this fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Hara</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any Christian who thinks that the Republicans are on their side is a complete lunatic.  Best evidence I can offer of this is the Pennsylvania senatorial race between Jim Toomey and Arlen Specter.

Toomey had all the credentials of conservatism, including a pro-life record, but George Bush and Rick Santorum ran pro-Specter ads in major Pennsylvania markets.

The result?  Specter wins by a nose, and the Patriot News (our local rag) admitted that these ads pushed Specter over the top to victory.

Of course, as long as Christians remain devided, the worldlings will get away with this stuff.

Brother Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any Christian who thinks that the Republicans are on their side is a complete lunatic.  Best evidence I can offer of this is the Pennsylvania senatorial race between Jim Toomey and Arlen Specter.</p>
<p>Toomey had all the credentials of conservatism, including a pro-life record, but George Bush and Rick Santorum ran pro-Specter ads in major Pennsylvania markets.</p>
<p>The result?  Specter wins by a nose, and the Patriot News (our local rag) admitted that these ads pushed Specter over the top to victory.</p>
<p>Of course, as long as Christians remain devided, the worldlings will get away with this stuff.</p>
<p>Brother Ed</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razzen (#51) -

(1) Suppose my enemy owns the race horse, Hilary&#039;s Revenge.  I come to the conclusion that HR has a 50/50 chance of wining the derby.  The stakes are currently 5:1 so, as a good Bayesian, I place a bet.  Am I supporting HR or its owner?  No, I&#039;m interesting in gaining a few shekels.

(2) Do you really believe the following?

    Voting is to            serving my country as

    being a deacon is to    serving my church.

I can&#039;t believe you have really thought about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razzen (#51) -</p>
<p>(1) Suppose my enemy owns the race horse, Hilary&#8217;s Revenge.  I come to the conclusion that HR has a 50/50 chance of wining the derby.  The stakes are currently 5:1 so, as a good Bayesian, I place a bet.  Am I supporting HR or its owner?  No, I&#8217;m interesting in gaining a few shekels.</p>
<p>(2) Do you really believe the following?</p>
<p>    Voting is to            serving my country as</p>
<p>    being a deacon is to    serving my church.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe you have really thought about this.</p>
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		<title>By: razzendahcuben</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-2/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>razzendahcuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell Mr. Butler, thank you for the comments.

&lt;i&gt;1. Where did I say I would rather vote for Hillary?&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;I have to admit that I am rooting for Hillary.&quot;

I think that 99% of the human population would take this as a comment in SUPPORT of Hillary, and seeing as the best way to support a candidate is to vote for them...

&quot;2. Exactly how is voting “doing my country a service”?&quot;

It&#039;s a service in the same way that being a deacon, a pastor, an apologist, or an evangelist in the local church is a service.

In the link you gave, you do say that you agree with libertarians on many things. Based on your views on Bush I am very inclined to use old &#039;if it looks like a duck and smells like a duck&#039; quip. Nevertheless, if you say you aren&#039;t libertarian then I&#039;ll take your word on it.

Thanks again for your response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell Mr. Butler, thank you for the comments.</p>
<p><i>1. Where did I say I would rather vote for Hillary?</i></p>
<p>&#8220;I have to admit that I am rooting for Hillary.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that 99% of the human population would take this as a comment in SUPPORT of Hillary, and seeing as the best way to support a candidate is to vote for them&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;2. Exactly how is voting “doing my country a service”?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a service in the same way that being a deacon, a pastor, an apologist, or an evangelist in the local church is a service.</p>
<p>In the link you gave, you do say that you agree with libertarians on many things. Based on your views on Bush I am very inclined to use old &#8216;if it looks like a duck and smells like a duck&#8217; quip. Nevertheless, if you say you aren&#8217;t libertarian then I&#8217;ll take your word on it.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your response.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-1/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
I really do appreciate your sentiments. Neither am I a &quot;lesser of two evils&quot; kind of thinker on matters of faith. Holding pagan politicians to holy standards is like throwing pearls before swine. But by God&#039;s help, we can use the swine for something good. If Christians only said &quot;repent or parish&quot; to our government, they would parish, and we would have done less than we could have to &#039;care for orphans and widows in their distress&#039;.
There is a real moral difference between the parties because of the composition. There are many Christian Republicans. So if not seeing the difference is your reason for neglecting to join with us, just look, we&#039;re right here. Don&#039;t abandon us because we are not strong enough, help make us stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
I really do appreciate your sentiments. Neither am I a &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221; kind of thinker on matters of faith. Holding pagan politicians to holy standards is like throwing pearls before swine. But by God&#8217;s help, we can use the swine for something good. If Christians only said &#8220;repent or parish&#8221; to our government, they would parish, and we would have done less than we could have to &#8216;care for orphans and widows in their distress&#8217;.<br />
There is a real moral difference between the parties because of the composition. There are many Christian Republicans. So if not seeing the difference is your reason for neglecting to join with us, just look, we&#8217;re right here. Don&#8217;t abandon us because we are not strong enough, help make us stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/01/ill-take-mine-rare/comment-page-1/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

I&#039;ve already hinted I&#039;m not a &quot;lesser of two evils&quot; kind of thinker, and I would encourage you to look back at the reformation. I don&#039;t know your theological persuasion, but I am quite thankful that I do not languish in the darkness of Popery all because some really committed brothers of mine finally decided that the lesser of all evils was not good enough and they gave up everything to hold fast to what was good and true. If we continue to say, &quot;well, that&#039;s all there is so we might as well make the best of it,&quot; then that&#039;s all there will ever be. Every great reformation from the Old Testament on started when the people of God finally stood up and said, &quot;that&#039;s enough; no more broken cisterns; the status quo will not due.&quot; The church can be politically active and our voice ought to be heard, but our voice ought to be, &quot;pox on both your houses; we&#039;re not supporting or siding with either of you, and unless you both (republicans &amp; democrats) repent, you will each likewise perish. We don&#039;t have to settle for the lesser of two evils. It&#039;ll cost us our coveted influence in the short term, but it will bring God&#039;s covenant blessings in the long term, and that&#039;s what we&#039;re shooting for, always and only.

As for myself, I can&#039;t see the moral difference between either of the two major parties, and therefore my political activism will consist only of whatever I can do to be apart of a wholesale change, and that is govern myself according to the Law of God and teach my household to do the same, and maybe, just maybe, the Lord will see fit to remove the tyrrants that rule over me now. If not, then maybe he&#039;ll see fit to remove them for my children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already hinted I&#8217;m not a &#8220;lesser of two evils&#8221; kind of thinker, and I would encourage you to look back at the reformation. I don&#8217;t know your theological persuasion, but I am quite thankful that I do not languish in the darkness of Popery all because some really committed brothers of mine finally decided that the lesser of all evils was not good enough and they gave up everything to hold fast to what was good and true. If we continue to say, &#8220;well, that&#8217;s all there is so we might as well make the best of it,&#8221; then that&#8217;s all there will ever be. Every great reformation from the Old Testament on started when the people of God finally stood up and said, &#8220;that&#8217;s enough; no more broken cisterns; the status quo will not due.&#8221; The church can be politically active and our voice ought to be heard, but our voice ought to be, &#8220;pox on both your houses; we&#8217;re not supporting or siding with either of you, and unless you both (republicans &amp; democrats) repent, you will each likewise perish. We don&#8217;t have to settle for the lesser of two evils. It&#8217;ll cost us our coveted influence in the short term, but it will bring God&#8217;s covenant blessings in the long term, and that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re shooting for, always and only.</p>
<p>As for myself, I can&#8217;t see the moral difference between either of the two major parties, and therefore my political activism will consist only of whatever I can do to be apart of a wholesale change, and that is govern myself according to the Law of God and teach my household to do the same, and maybe, just maybe, the Lord will see fit to remove the tyrrants that rule over me now. If not, then maybe he&#8217;ll see fit to remove them for my children.</p>
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