Comments on: When I hear the word “Judeo-Christian” I reach for my revolver

By: TJH

TJH — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:50:10 +0000

Daniel — There are two senses I suppose someone might define the “judeo” part of the term by: (1) affirming substantial ethical continuity in the transition from Judaism to Christianity, such that a common basis can be appealed to when making ethical or legal claims. (2) Affirming that Christianity receives the OT and everything in it and is thus judaism come into its own.

(1) is absurd, since the biblical law proferred by Christianity, though based on the very “Torah” kissed but ignored by the hebishkeit, is diametrically opposite to the Talmud that it is actually based on. (2) is absurd for the same reason. Christianity embraces the OT in contrast to the hebishkeit, not in common with them.

It would be both more intelligent and honest for people like Sproul to speak of Moseo-Christianity, or Abrahamic-Christianity, or even Hebreo-Christianity. But none of these terms would stick, because they are redundant, and, while creating confusion, would also fail to deliver the gold ring of political correctness and immunity from attack from the ADL and other of our ruling factions.

By: danielj

danielj — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:01:05 +0000

On second thought, perhaps he is only using the term since Nietzsche did the same… Thoughts?

By: danielj

danielj — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:59:21 +0000

Has R.C. Sproul always utilized the term?

By: ElizaF

ElizaF — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:53:07 +0000

TJH: Upon reflection, agreed.

By: TJH

TJH — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:49:06 +0000

Eliza — of course I agree with your prioritization. Yet, we must also realize that we are both Christians and citizens. As citizens, we can object to persons who allow themselves to be parasites on the nation, and trick or deceive their “fellow citizens” with impunity, and cover each other while doing it. The blasphemy is the worst thing, and worthy of death, but I would not say that the other is merely piddling.

By: ElizaF

ElizaF — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:33:25 +0000

Amy:
What the Talmud says about Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is so terrible that we cannot even discuss it. For that reason I totally discount anything anyone says in favor of the Talmud. Each person will be judged in terms of what he believes about Christ. Piddling discussion about which person the Jews say it’s OK to kill is peanuts compared what the Talmud says about our Lord.

By: TJH

TJH — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:24:44 +0000

Amy, I think MB’s point is that the interpretation of a text needs to be done in the open. Of course a rabbi will tell a goy, in the secrecy of the conference room, that he no longer follows the bit about how it’s ok to trick goyim. Let the rabbis meeting in official assembly publish this new view to the world. That would be the first step toward credibility.

By: MRB

MRB — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:19:11 +0000

In other words, I have to call up Rabbi Lipshitz in order to know what the Talmud says. Oh, and thank you for the reminder of Israeli benevolence. A few token bucks given to Sudanese surely says more about the true Israel than what is currently happening in Gaza.

By: Amy

Amy — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:24:07 +0000

The problem is, you people read some stuff online without understanding what it means instead of talking to a rabbi about these issues. I’m no rabbi, but hopefully I can make some points that will lead you to do further research.

It is forbidden to kill anyone, Jew or Gentile, except for self defense.
The Talmud sayings of various Rabbis are often outdated and no longer used. Special people decide which rules are in use and which are not. For instance, one of the rabbis said “To teach your daughter Torah is to teach her an obscenity.” Clearly this is not followed, as all religious Jewish women are taught Torah for many years. I am sure many of these sayings you posted fall into that category. Also, most of these sayings are about the pagan Romans, the destroyers of the Temple, not fellow monotheists.
There are plenty of rules that show that, while Jews and Gentiles have different missions in life (Jews 613 rules, Gentiles 7 rules) both are made in God’s image and thus are precious. For instance, a Jew must rise and give up his seat for an elderly person, whether that person is Jewish or not Jewish. This rule comes from the Torah, which is the ultimate authority, not the Talmud. “Be kind to the stranger.” This is why Israel is now helping refugees from Darfur, even though they are Muslim.

By: Joshua

Joshua — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:07:48 +0000

I thought that was your purpose for encouraging opera, but you merely announced that I was right.

Please expalin how getting the movers and shakers to take up a constructive hobby will mitigate the problems I am highlighting.

[Joshua -- I'm taking this digression to the padded room. T.]