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		<title>By: TJH</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-9460</link>
		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a magnificent rendition of the Adagio, done by the Concertgebouw in a concert given in Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZL6bNqBNwM
You will have to click through to the continuations unfortunately. The Scherzo and Finale are excellent also. The greatness of the Japanese people in the audience is evident throughout and at the end as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a magnificent rendition of the Adagio, done by the Concertgebouw in a concert given in Japan.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZL6bNqBNwM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZL6bNqBNwM</a><br />
You will have to click through to the continuations unfortunately. The Scherzo and Finale are excellent also. The greatness of the Japanese people in the audience is evident throughout and at the end as well.</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-7989</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another calumny exposed: Hitler snubbed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/6008196/Adolf-Hitler-did-shake-hands-with-Jesse-Owens.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jess Owens&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another calumny exposed: Hitler snubbed <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/6008196/Adolf-Hitler-did-shake-hands-with-Jesse-Owens.html" rel="nofollow">Jess Owens</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1843</link>
		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weston and/or Andrew:

We don&#039;t claim to be WW2 experts.

What made WW2 incomprehensible to me for so many years was, I now realize, the contradictions surrounding its exposition, at least in the US, that cause a logically-oriented mind to grind to a halt. The contradictions are a result of deliberate lies. Once these lies are exposed, it becomes quite easy to study the period with profit. Here are just a few examples:

1. &quot;Japan started it (with the US) by bombing Pearl Harbor&quot;

2. &quot;We had to stop Hitler in his march to gobble up Europe.&quot;

3. &quot;We were justified in fighting Hitler because of the Holocaust.&quot;

(1) is simply false. Japan was driven into a place from which she had no choice but to lash out, by the belligerence of the Roosevelt administration.

(2) is absurd at several levels. Most of central Europe was allied to or sympathetic with Germany in its march against Bolshevik Russia, which was universally recognized by everyone except jews and Churchill as the primary threat to the safety and freedom of the world. The German grievance against Bohemia and Poland was fully justified. Germany did not want war with Western Europe and bent over backwards to prevent it. All the countries that Germany was trying to &quot;gobble up&quot; according to the myth were handed over to Stalin by Roosevelt and Churchill after the war. Then, we spent 50 years in a cold war with the USSR, which could have all been prevented had we joined Germany in dealing a quick knock-out blow to the Bolshevik terror.

(3) won&#039;t work, because even according to the story, the death camps were not constructed until starting in 1942, after the US entered. If there was a holocaust at all, it was as likely a &lt;i&gt;result&lt;/i&gt; of the US entry into the war as a &lt;i&gt;cause&lt;/i&gt; thereof.

Think about it: you enter a bank with intent to rob it at gunpoint; but your gun goes off accidently; lo and behold, it turns out you killed some bank-robbers that got there before you.

Can you now take credit for &quot;stopping the bank robbers&quot;?

Of course not. It was happenstance.

Now add to that, that the men you killed were not bank-robbers at all, and you will start to understand the point.

So you have to get the basic narrative straight before the facticity will make any sense.

We have already mentioned various resources. Toland to get the &quot;rest of the story&quot; about Japan; Stinnett to learn about Roosevelt&#039;s deliberate trickery to get the Japanese to attack. Buchanan&#039;s new book &quot;Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War&quot; would not be a bad place to get introduced to the European front, though Buchanan has not fully extracted himself from some of the mythology. As far as the basic sequence of events, the Thomas Childers lectures available in audio or video from The Teaching Company are as good a place to start as anywhere. After that, getting a deeper understanding of the war criminal Churchill will be needed. I have found that you don&#039;t even need to go to &quot;revisionist&quot; histories to gain this insight. Even the hagiographies will do once your mind is dejudaized. I go to Jenkins&#039; biography first. You can see my beginning of a summary of Churchill&#039;s life in several posts under the history-20th century tag.

We are still uncovering new connections. WW1 and the Bolshevik Revolution is going to be key. In that regard, even the Mary Phagan case I sent you to before has its important place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weston and/or Andrew:</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t claim to be WW2 experts.</p>
<p>What made WW2 incomprehensible to me for so many years was, I now realize, the contradictions surrounding its exposition, at least in the US, that cause a logically-oriented mind to grind to a halt. The contradictions are a result of deliberate lies. Once these lies are exposed, it becomes quite easy to study the period with profit. Here are just a few examples:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;Japan started it (with the US) by bombing Pearl Harbor&#8221;</p>
<p>2. &#8220;We had to stop Hitler in his march to gobble up Europe.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. &#8220;We were justified in fighting Hitler because of the Holocaust.&#8221;</p>
<p>(1) is simply false. Japan was driven into a place from which she had no choice but to lash out, by the belligerence of the Roosevelt administration.</p>
<p>(2) is absurd at several levels. Most of central Europe was allied to or sympathetic with Germany in its march against Bolshevik Russia, which was universally recognized by everyone except jews and Churchill as the primary threat to the safety and freedom of the world. The German grievance against Bohemia and Poland was fully justified. Germany did not want war with Western Europe and bent over backwards to prevent it. All the countries that Germany was trying to &#8220;gobble up&#8221; according to the myth were handed over to Stalin by Roosevelt and Churchill after the war. Then, we spent 50 years in a cold war with the USSR, which could have all been prevented had we joined Germany in dealing a quick knock-out blow to the Bolshevik terror.</p>
<p>(3) won&#8217;t work, because even according to the story, the death camps were not constructed until starting in 1942, after the US entered. If there was a holocaust at all, it was as likely a <i>result</i> of the US entry into the war as a <i>cause</i> thereof.</p>
<p>Think about it: you enter a bank with intent to rob it at gunpoint; but your gun goes off accidently; lo and behold, it turns out you killed some bank-robbers that got there before you.</p>
<p>Can you now take credit for &#8220;stopping the bank robbers&#8221;?</p>
<p>Of course not. It was happenstance.</p>
<p>Now add to that, that the men you killed were not bank-robbers at all, and you will start to understand the point.</p>
<p>So you have to get the basic narrative straight before the facticity will make any sense.</p>
<p>We have already mentioned various resources. Toland to get the &#8220;rest of the story&#8221; about Japan; Stinnett to learn about Roosevelt&#8217;s deliberate trickery to get the Japanese to attack. Buchanan&#8217;s new book &#8220;Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War&#8221; would not be a bad place to get introduced to the European front, though Buchanan has not fully extracted himself from some of the mythology. As far as the basic sequence of events, the Thomas Childers lectures available in audio or video from The Teaching Company are as good a place to start as anywhere. After that, getting a deeper understanding of the war criminal Churchill will be needed. I have found that you don&#8217;t even need to go to &#8220;revisionist&#8221; histories to gain this insight. Even the hagiographies will do once your mind is dejudaized. I go to Jenkins&#8217; biography first. You can see my beginning of a summary of Churchill&#8217;s life in several posts under the history-20th century tag.</p>
<p>We are still uncovering new connections. WW1 and the Bolshevik Revolution is going to be key. In that regard, even the Mary Phagan case I sent you to before has its important place.</p>
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		<title>By: weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating post. You both seem to have a good deal of knowledge regarding World War II. Could you recommend some good works of military history for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating post. You both seem to have a good deal of knowledge regarding World War II. Could you recommend some good works of military history for me?</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1842</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a video of the greatest ace of all-time, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzwwcTlhaiE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hans Ulrich-Rudel&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a video of the greatest ace of all-time, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzwwcTlhaiE" rel="nofollow">Hans Ulrich-Rudel</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1841</link>
		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candyman (#6) -- that link was deleted by You-tube. However, it was posted again by someone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwco5_MVHsU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Probably, that will keep happening. When it does, do a search in the You-tube window for &quot;no remorse deutschland&quot; and maybe someone else will have reposted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candyman (#6) &#8212; that link was deleted by You-tube. However, it was posted again by someone <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwco5_MVHsU" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Probably, that will keep happening. When it does, do a search in the You-tube window for &#8220;no remorse deutschland&#8221; and maybe someone else will have reposted it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mannfred Wahrheit</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1840</link>
		<dc:creator>Mannfred Wahrheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An cool video of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6m_pvDV4JI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Waffen SS&lt;/a&gt; Knight&#039;s Cross holders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An cool video of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6m_pvDV4JI" rel="nofollow">Waffen SS</a> Knight&#8217;s Cross holders.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe Levine</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1839</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candyman you make me sick!!!  That video is Nasi agritprop.

Here is a story that is good news.  A SS guard finally gets his do.  Clik
&lt;a href=&quot;http://judicial-inc.biz/10_1.nazi_deported.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candyman you make me sick!!!  That video is Nasi agritprop.</p>
<p>Here is a story that is good news.  A SS guard finally gets his do.  Clik<br />
<a href="http://judicial-inc.biz/10_1.nazi_deported.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Candyman</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1838</link>
		<dc:creator>Candyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an interesting rock video including Stalingrad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aYWuynNxy8
The tune is boring and the singing poor; I think the bass playing is what carries it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interesting rock video including Stalingrad.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aYWuynNxy8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aYWuynNxy8</a><br />
The tune is boring and the singing poor; I think the bass playing is what carries it.</p>
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		<title>By: MRB</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2007/06/movie-stalingrad-2003-hix-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>MRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A culture&#039;s reaction to big historical events can give us a glimpse into its nature.  Before German authorities announced the entombment of Sixth Army, Hitler had the national radio play nothing but Bruckner&#039;s 7th Symphony for three days.  Imagine that.  This music spoke to the German people.  And while Germans listened to Bruckner, Americans were absorbed in jazz, swing, and pop.

Before Admiral Dönitz announced Hitler&#039;s death to the German people on May 1, 1945, the Adagio of the Symphony was played.

These events may seem trivial to most.  They are mistaken.  Small things like this reveal much about a nation.

Contemporary Germans now listen to the musical descendants of jazz, swing, and pop.  Germany lost the war, but more significantly, it lost its culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A culture&#8217;s reaction to big historical events can give us a glimpse into its nature.  Before German authorities announced the entombment of Sixth Army, Hitler had the national radio play nothing but Bruckner&#8217;s 7th Symphony for three days.  Imagine that.  This music spoke to the German people.  And while Germans listened to Bruckner, Americans were absorbed in jazz, swing, and pop.</p>
<p>Before Admiral Dönitz announced Hitler&#8217;s death to the German people on May 1, 1945, the Adagio of the Symphony was played.</p>
<p>These events may seem trivial to most.  They are mistaken.  Small things like this reveal much about a nation.</p>
<p>Contemporary Germans now listen to the musical descendants of jazz, swing, and pop.  Germany lost the war, but more significantly, it lost its culture.</p>
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