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		<title>By: confed</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-12077</link>
		<dc:creator>confed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fr. John,

Matt. 10:6 is a weak proof text for your position. It merely means that Jesus&#039; earthly ministry was focused on his covenant people, and is a companion to verse 5, which says &quot;Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not&quot;. Yet, at his Ascension, Jesus lifted this ban to include the ministry to &quot;all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth&quot; (Acts 1:8), and commissioned Paul to go to the Gentiles as you know. 

To you, &quot;house of Israel&quot; is the entire set of people to whom the gospel is limited, yet in that very passage Jesus treats &quot;house of Israel&quot; as but a subset of God&#039;s elect, with the gentiles being the complement subset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr. John,</p>
<p>Matt. 10:6 is a weak proof text for your position. It merely means that Jesus&#8217; earthly ministry was focused on his covenant people, and is a companion to verse 5, which says &#8220;Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not&#8221;. Yet, at his Ascension, Jesus lifted this ban to include the ministry to &#8220;all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth&#8221; (Acts 1:8), and commissioned Paul to go to the Gentiles as you know. </p>
<p>To you, &#8220;house of Israel&#8221; is the entire set of people to whom the gospel is limited, yet in that very passage Jesus treats &#8220;house of Israel&#8221; as but a subset of God&#8217;s elect, with the gentiles being the complement subset.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. John</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-12048</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I still feel that there is a &#039;great gulf fixed&#039; between the White and the Negro, as this very good film indicates,

http://vimeo.com/10806611

I also feel that there exists a sort of &#039;want their cake and eat it, too&#039; mentality among all whites who call themselves Christians, in that they have learned a false exegesis of the &#039;set apart&#039; racial paradigms of the O.T., in misconstruing the extent or the focus of the N.T. &#039;go unto all nations&#039; statements of Christ - i.e., the &quot;Great Commission.&quot; We forget that the &#039;universalist&#039; statements of that post-Resurrection statement have to be looked at (if we believe all of Scripture to be divinely inspired - II Tim. 3:16, etc.) in light of Matt. 10:6 - &quot;I am come ONLY to the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF ISRAEL. CI or not CI, the Lord&#039;s statement is clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I still feel that there is a &#8216;great gulf fixed&#8217; between the White and the Negro, as this very good film indicates,</p>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/10806611" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/10806611</a></p>
<p>I also feel that there exists a sort of &#8216;want their cake and eat it, too&#8217; mentality among all whites who call themselves Christians, in that they have learned a false exegesis of the &#8217;set apart&#8217; racial paradigms of the O.T., in misconstruing the extent or the focus of the N.T. &#8216;go unto all nations&#8217; statements of Christ &#8211; i.e., the &#8220;Great Commission.&#8221; We forget that the &#8216;universalist&#8217; statements of that post-Resurrection statement have to be looked at (if we believe all of Scripture to be divinely inspired &#8211; II Tim. 3:16, etc.) in light of Matt. 10:6 &#8211; &#8220;I am come ONLY to the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF ISRAEL. CI or not CI, the Lord&#8217;s statement is clear.</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-8899</link>
		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father -- you take ubrage at the quote:  “Many people that believe humanity is divided into races also believe that all men are descended from a single pair, and the vast majority of Christians that believe in the existence of races share that belief.” But note that the mood of this sentence is indicative, describing the landscape. It was meant to show the invalidity of Ham&#039;s taxonomy, not to vote for or against per se.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father &#8212; you take ubrage at the quote:  “Many people that believe humanity is divided into races also believe that all men are descended from a single pair, and the vast majority of Christians that believe in the existence of races share that belief.” But note that the mood of this sentence is indicative, describing the landscape. It was meant to show the invalidity of Ham&#8217;s taxonomy, not to vote for or against per se.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. John</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-8814</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very very close, sir.

http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-idiotic-beliefs-that-undergird-modernity/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very very close, sir.</p>
<p><a href="http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-idiotic-beliefs-that-undergird-modernity/" rel="nofollow">http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/the-idiotic-beliefs-that-undergird-modernity/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Idiotic Beliefs that undergird Modernity &#171; Thewhitechrist&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-8813</link>
		<dc:creator>The Idiotic Beliefs that undergird Modernity &#171; Thewhitechrist&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Europeans that do deny it must think they are being humble and generous. They are not. They are despising the good gifts that have been showered on their own tribe. They are ingrates and prevaricators.” &#8211; http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Europeans that do deny it must think they are being humble and generous. They are not. They are despising the good gifts that have been showered on their own tribe. They are ingrates and prevaricators.” &#8211; <a href="http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/" rel="nofollow">http://firstword.us/2009/09/ham-on-racism-and-evolution/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One glimmer of hope though is that 20-somethings have long been heads full of mush, because their only experience is government education. Ten years in the real world does wonders. 

As for secession -- well good look to them! We will need to carve out a land for incorrigibles to emigrate to. I&#039;m thinking Florida below the panhandle -- a place for jews, dispensationalists, feminists, egalitarians, and libertarian Christian Reconstructionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One glimmer of hope though is that 20-somethings have long been heads full of mush, because their only experience is government education. Ten years in the real world does wonders. </p>
<p>As for secession &#8212; well good look to them! We will need to carve out a land for incorrigibles to emigrate to. I&#8217;m thinking Florida below the panhandle &#8212; a place for jews, dispensationalists, feminists, egalitarians, and libertarian Christian Reconstructionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Siegfried Himmel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siegfried Himmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the younger men, especially those in their twenties and younger are completely sold-out.&quot;

This is true.  The right to marry anyone you want regardless of race (as well as share the same drinking fountain) has become foundational in the minds of young white folk.  Even in &quot;red-state&quot; areas where Talmudic TV has less of an influence, egalitarianism is an absolute given in any high-school or university classroom discussion.  Suggestions of white ethnic solidarity will be met with booing, condescending laughter, or shame-on-you self-flagellation.  Japhethites of all tribes have lost any sense of peoplehood, and I&#039;m not sure how it can be regained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the younger men, especially those in their twenties and younger are completely sold-out.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true.  The right to marry anyone you want regardless of race (as well as share the same drinking fountain) has become foundational in the minds of young white folk.  Even in &#8220;red-state&#8221; areas where Talmudic TV has less of an influence, egalitarianism is an absolute given in any high-school or university classroom discussion.  Suggestions of white ethnic solidarity will be met with booing, condescending laughter, or shame-on-you self-flagellation.  Japhethites of all tribes have lost any sense of peoplehood, and I&#8217;m not sure how it can be regained.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>last par should read &quot;...may not be locked in.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last par should read &#8220;&#8230;may not be locked in.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJH,

Thanks much. After I posted my comment, I re-read your post and thought that is what you were getting at.  Your words are very helpful.

&quot;I’m pretty sure the problem we are having with our tribe is control of the media, not bad exegesis in the first place.&quot;

This is something to this.  But we&#039;ve chosen to believe their lies; we like them so much we upgrade to our 150 dollar cable bills.  We believe their lies and fight for them in the public square. I can&#039;t tell you how many common, good, white men I&#039;ve tried to engage with simple arguments.  They simply will not have an argument against egalitarianism. It is their God and starting point. The Jewish propaganda is no longer retraining them, it serves as conditioning. 

Perhaps you are referring to your generation where this shift may be locked-in. But the younger men, especially those in their twenties and younger are completely sold-out. I think if men my age (mid-thirties) and older assembled along your cause, the younger ones would be as quick to secede and start their own. 

It really is scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJH,</p>
<p>Thanks much. After I posted my comment, I re-read your post and thought that is what you were getting at.  Your words are very helpful.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m pretty sure the problem we are having with our tribe is control of the media, not bad exegesis in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is something to this.  But we&#8217;ve chosen to believe their lies; we like them so much we upgrade to our 150 dollar cable bills.  We believe their lies and fight for them in the public square. I can&#8217;t tell you how many common, good, white men I&#8217;ve tried to engage with simple arguments.  They simply will not have an argument against egalitarianism. It is their God and starting point. The Jewish propaganda is no longer retraining them, it serves as conditioning. </p>
<p>Perhaps you are referring to your generation where this shift may be locked-in. But the younger men, especially those in their twenties and younger are completely sold-out. I think if men my age (mid-thirties) and older assembled along your cause, the younger ones would be as quick to secede and start their own. </p>
<p>It really is scary.</p>
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		<title>By: TJH</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua -- rather than frame it as normative vs pragmatic (your absolute vs positivistic) I would rather observe that there are a variety of trajectories and nested norms, and that we can explore one trajectory or layer without needing always to prove the whole kahuna. Thus, it seems much easier to prove that a tribe is &lt;i&gt;within its rights&lt;/i&gt; to forbid miscegenation, than to prove that miscegenation is &lt;i&gt;everywhere and always sinful&lt;/i&gt;. In addition to the difficulty of proving the latter, there would also be the attendant difficulty of providing a rigorous and undebatable definition of the boundary lines. If the weaker claim can bypass these difficulties, it seems worthwhile to mention that at least as an interim working solution, while we ponder the stronger claim -- especially since the weaker claim may lead to the same salutary result as the stronger.

There is a &quot;natural law&quot; aspect to the matter (which incidentally points to moral law origin, not positivistic). Does anyone seriously believe even in our debased age, that a national assembly of Aryan men would vote to approve giving Aryan girls to the Negro? (Only right-jew-wing Christians would vote &quot;for&quot; in large numbers.) This is why the jew must do everything to prevent us having such an assembly. Even those that are wavering could be brought back by telling the whole story of the deliberate and hostile inculcation of these ideas via movie and media controlled by jews; how it means the end of 2,000 years of history; how it was repugnant to their grandfathers&#039; sensibilities. I&#039;m pretty sure the problem we are having with our tribe is control of the media, not bad exegesis in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua &#8212; rather than frame it as normative vs pragmatic (your absolute vs positivistic) I would rather observe that there are a variety of trajectories and nested norms, and that we can explore one trajectory or layer without needing always to prove the whole kahuna. Thus, it seems much easier to prove that a tribe is <i>within its rights</i> to forbid miscegenation, than to prove that miscegenation is <i>everywhere and always sinful</i>. In addition to the difficulty of proving the latter, there would also be the attendant difficulty of providing a rigorous and undebatable definition of the boundary lines. If the weaker claim can bypass these difficulties, it seems worthwhile to mention that at least as an interim working solution, while we ponder the stronger claim &#8212; especially since the weaker claim may lead to the same salutary result as the stronger.</p>
<p>There is a &#8220;natural law&#8221; aspect to the matter (which incidentally points to moral law origin, not positivistic). Does anyone seriously believe even in our debased age, that a national assembly of Aryan men would vote to approve giving Aryan girls to the Negro? (Only right-jew-wing Christians would vote &#8220;for&#8221; in large numbers.) This is why the jew must do everything to prevent us having such an assembly. Even those that are wavering could be brought back by telling the whole story of the deliberate and hostile inculcation of these ideas via movie and media controlled by jews; how it means the end of 2,000 years of history; how it was repugnant to their grandfathers&#8217; sensibilities. I&#8217;m pretty sure the problem we are having with our tribe is control of the media, not bad exegesis in the first place.</p>
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